This week…

The Cost of Delayed Justice

With..

Sir Max Hill KC

 

Some conversations stay with you long after the microphones are switched off. My discussion with Sir Max Hill KC, former Director of Public Prosecutions and head of the Crown Prosecution Service for England and Wales, was one of them.

With almost 40 years of experience on both sides of the courtroom, Sir Max has lived through some of the UK’s most challenging legal moments, from prosecuting terrorism cases linked to the Real IRA and Al-Qaeda to navigating the legal aftermath of the 7/7 London bombings. But what struck me most wasn’t just his experience, it was his unwavering belief that our justice system can and must do better.

Do We Really Need More Laws?

One of the most thought-provoking parts of our conversation challenged a common assumption: that every new problem requires new legislation.

Sir Max argued that many of our long-standing common law offences, including murder and conspiracy to murder, remain remarkably effective in dealing with today’s complex criminal cases, even terrorism. Instead of constantly adding new layers of legislation, perhaps we should focus on making the laws we already have work better.

It’s a reminder that reform isn’t always about creating more, sometimes it’s about using what already exists more wisely.

Preventing Young Lives from Being Defined by One Mistake

We also explored an issue I care deeply about: how early contact with the criminal justice system can shape a young person’s entire future.

Sir Max explained how he championed the use of conditional cautions and other out-of-court disposals to deal with lower-level offending. Rather than pushing teenagers into a cycle of criminalisation, these interventions offer accountability alongside the opportunity to change direction.

For many young people, especially those aged 14 to 16, that difference can be life-changing.

Why Care-Experienced Young People Need Better Support

One of the most powerful moments in our discussion centred on care-experienced young people.

Sir Max spoke candidly about how those leaving the care system often face overwhelming disadvantages, making them particularly vulnerable to criminal exploitation and gang involvement. Without adequate financial support and tailored community services, many simply don’t have the safety net that others take for granted.

Justice, as we discussed, isn’t only about responding after harm has occurred, it’s also about preventing people from falling through the cracks in the first place.

The Cost of Delayed Justice

Few issues concern me more than the growing delays in our courts.

With thousands of Crown Court cases still waiting to be heard following the pandemic, justice is being delayed on a scale that affects everyone. Sir Max highlighted the human cost of people spending months, or even years, on remand before eventually being acquitted.

When innocent people lose years of their lives waiting for a trial, the system itself demands serious reflection.

If You Could Fix One Thing…

I always enjoy asking my guests what they would change if they had the power.

Sir Max’s answer surprised me.

Rather than introducing another major legal reform, he would separate the Ministry of Justice’s court budget from the prison budget. At present, soaring prison costs compete directly with funding for courts and legal aid, leaving the justice system under immense strain.

It’s a practical, structural solution that could have far-reaching consequences for access to justice across the country.

Final Thoughts

This episode reminded me that meaningful justice isn’t simply about convictions or punishment. It’s about building systems that are fair, timely, preventative, and sustainable.

Sir Max brings a rare perspective, one shaped by decades at the highest levels of the legal profession, and his insights offer plenty of food for thought for anyone interested in the future of justice.

If you’re passionate about legal reform, youth justice, or the future of our courts, I think you’ll find this conversation as fascinating as I did.

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